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30 January 2007 @ 08:26 pm
Argh.  
Dear CW and any other network guilty if this bullshit,

Your conception of the purpose of women makes me vomit. I'm sure motherhood and babies are just DAMN awesome. IF YOU WANT THEM.

But I swear to FUCKING Zod, there are women in the world who don't want children and don't want men. There are women in the world who might, upon getting pregnant HAVE AN ABORTION. This will not make them evil. It will not make them sluts (not that there would be anything wrong in my mind if they wanted to have sex with multiple guys). I know that abortion is a sticky topic to get into on television, but honestly? I think you might have to cope with that. Since the only time I see someone getting pregnant on television is when it is by accident.

The woman is distraught. OH THE HUMANITY. How horrible is this situation! They complain, or they go on a rant about diapers (HEY GILMORE GIRLS). If they're Lana Lang they act as though they are DYING. And what happens? They ALL ALL ALL decide to keep the pregnancy going whether they WANT to have a child or not.

This is not reality. If you are going to put your female characters in that position, I'm going to wonder why your characters live in an alternate universe where Roe v Wade has been overturned. Women do not exist to be a walking womb. Nor do they exist to be the sex object of your male leads. Women are people. Women are important human beings in and of themselves without babies or men. (This does not mean I'm saying let's get rid of babies or men.)

Additionally, gay women do exist. We call ourselves dykes, lesbians, gays, queers, and sometimes fags. We DON'T exist to be a JOKE in the plot. And we're not all psychos to be used to endanger your poor heterosexual princesses. And while I understand finding lesbians OR gay men hot together, the purpose of us dykes is NOT just to be sex appeal to men. Again, looking at you Smallville. Us dykes are NOT the result of meteor radiation.

On another note? The "feminists" that you portrayed on Veronica Mars are like no feminists I've ever seen in my life. They fake rapes to get the fraternities closed, are hostile to rape survivors, and SEXUALLY ASSAULT a male student to make their point. I don't really understand how you can have a show centered around the premise of an intelligent, independant young woman and have such a repellent image of feminists, but I'm REALLY getting tired of seeing the Straw Feminist. Maybe it's time you fired her. I didn't like her on Charmed either.

AND on "hookers." If they prefer to be called "escorts," maybe you should call them that and stop speaking so disrespectfully. I can only handle so many "whore" jokes, okay?? Call me pro-sex and pro-pleasure and pro-women making their own decisions even if they don't follow with what the producer considers "appropriate" sexual mores.

We're here, we're queer, we're not lunatics or women of ill-repute, and Roe hasn't been overturned yet. Get a fucking clue.

That's all for now, I suppose.
 
 
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Cristina: bitch please.miss_cris on January 31st, 2007 02:40 am (UTC)
On another note? The "feminists" that you portrayed on Veronica Mars are like no feminists I've ever seen in my life. They fake rapes to get the fraternities closed, are hostile to rape survivors, and SEXUALLY ASSAULT a male student to make their point. I don't really understand how you can have a show centered around the premise of an intelligent, independant young woman and have such a repellent image of feminists, but I'm REALLY getting tired of seeing the Straw Feminist. Maybe it's time you fired her. I didn't like her on Charmed either.

Thank you. I've been dying to find someone else who felt this way about the utter BS they've been trotting out on VM. This is exactly the reason that I stopped watch the show.
their tongues battled for dominancestarstealingirl on January 31st, 2007 10:25 pm (UTC)
Oh, I thoroughly agree. It's really sad; the first two years of the show held such promise.

VM was recommended to me by people who loved Buffy the Vampire Slayer and were looking for something of a replacement, but the Straw Feminists are precisely the reason VM will never inherit the Buffy mantle. Joss Whedon was never afraid to label himself or his work feminist; conversely, VM is the "I'm not a feminist, but..." show.
(no subject) - ladydreamer on January 31st, 2007 10:41 pm (UTC) (Expand)
TeaRoses: Bitch by secundusvitarosehiptea on January 31st, 2007 03:51 am (UTC)
This is why I decided not to watch Veronica Mars at all. People on my friends list loved it and then they started complaining about the bizarre portrayal of "feminism."

And in my experience even on shows where lesbian/queer women exist and aren't portrayed only negatively, it's usually like they exist as more of a cliche or poster child, as opposed to being human beings like the rest of the cast.
Jennyladydreamer on January 31st, 2007 10:43 pm (UTC)
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And in my experience even on shows where lesbian/queer women exist and aren't portrayed only negatively, it's usually like they exist as more of a cliche or poster child, as opposed to being human beings like the rest of the cast.

This is true. I'm sure I've complained about this elsewhere.
Lavender Took: lovelavendertook on January 31st, 2007 05:27 am (UTC)
I haven't seen these shows, but I've seen enough of the crap of which you speak on other shows. A lovely rant! Go you! (-:
Smockeryaustentatious on January 31st, 2007 06:30 am (UTC)
I'm a huge Smallville fan (I know, I know) and I have been really, really upset by the whole Lana pregnancy issue. I really want to write up a whole rant on it to post in here but I haven't had time (I'm looking at you, college.) The whole thing is just so, so wrong. Even though Lex is a possessive person because he's Lex, there's still a really creepy undertone of his complete ownership of Lana that has little to do with his character and more to do with that's apparently how the WB thinks that things should work.

Jenny: journalistic integrityladydreamer on January 31st, 2007 10:50 pm (UTC)
I'm a big Smallville fan, too, and I've had a lot of trouble the last few seasons because of their problematic portrayal of women. Especially Lana. True, Lex is possessive, but now that Lana is pregnant, they even have Clark acting as though "Wow, Lex planted his flag. Game over. She belongs to him now!" Which is ridiculous! Because at the same time they plot Lex having given her quite a bit of time to think about the proposal. They give her the freedom of her choices then undercut that at the same time as though she is incapable of deciding for herself. I don't know how the writers can't see how offensive their storylines are.

I could go on forever about the problematic representation of women in this show and the producers' bizarre fetishization of their actresses. I wish I were't so attached to some of the characters.
the creature from the blog lagoon: feeling discombobulatedishyface on January 31st, 2007 01:22 pm (UTC)
Oh, man, the Pregnancy Storyline. I always cringe whenever I see it regurgitated, especially on "teen" shows.

As for queers being a result of meteor readiation... oy. Just oy.
Jenny: crazyladydreamer on January 31st, 2007 10:56 pm (UTC)
I wonder what the agenda is behind that storyline. Don't worry, girliers! You'll hate the idea at first, but soon the mommy hormones will kick in and you'll want the baby sooooo much. Throw the rest of your life out the window and make us some more soldiers!

If Veronica Mars ends up doing this storyline, you'll hear me barfing from here.

I don't know if they've ever planned that, but invariably, they've had three plots involving a lesbian mutant who goes homocidal and tries to kill Lana. There was one gay football player who may or may not have been a mutant (that I can remember), and then there's Lex Luthor, who is both obviously mutant and GAY GAY GAY. I mean... I thought only PINK Kryptonite did that...
the sundance kid: attitudemresundance on January 31st, 2007 04:21 pm (UTC)
Network TV is full of so much crap writing in general I generally avoid it.
Jenny: naughtyladydreamer on January 31st, 2007 11:00 pm (UTC)
The only good show on right now IMO is Heroes. But that's replaying on SciFi channel.
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Irenenobutterflies on January 31st, 2007 05:45 pm (UTC)
I haven't watched television in about 4 years--and even then, it was sparingly--but this just confirms that I made the right decision.

People who make network TV shows don't have a clue about decent characterisation or narrative, let alone real life.

Vermithrax Pejorative: Roslinfyrdrakken on February 1st, 2007 08:26 pm (UTC)
Agreed that BSG gets credit for showing it as a bad thing when the Cylons literally see human women only as baby machines, having at least one female character explicitly not want to be a mother, and have the abortion issue cropping up in a storyline.

And I don't watch Lost anymore, but they really got my attention in the first-season ep showing that bit of Claire's backstory where she was planning on an abortion when she found out she was pregnant, got talked out of it by her boyfriend, and then got dumped by him when she was too far along to abort and went with adoption instead. Major demerits to the show for her storyline revolving around the baby she didn't want being some supernatural kid that she had to keep at all costs, but I was glad that at least the show portrayed her as a good person who simply didn't want and couldn't care for a baby, rather than as an evil slut or heartless bitch.
Jenny: goddamn batmanladydreamer on February 1st, 2007 11:22 pm (UTC)
I was NOT happy that the president decided to make abortion legal because the fleet needed to increase numbers. But I saw that whole plotline as the Cylons manipulating them into taking a bad stance to propel Baltar forward.

I've never watched Lost but I agree that's an acceptable portrayal of her motivations. (Superbaby? Huh.)
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S. A. Bonasi: Gordon & Josabonasi on February 4th, 2007 10:17 pm (UTC)
Amen! Can I add that Clark kidnapping Lana and the forcibily kissing her and then her passionately kissing him back and then the only thing Clark learning from this is that Lana wuvs him is UTTER AND COMPLETE BULLSHIT.
Jenny: This is some fucked up shit.ladydreamer on February 4th, 2007 10:29 pm (UTC)
Heh. Could have waited for SV to post this rant, but that's another rant right there. "Tru wub" is pretty much sexual assault for the writers of Smallville, isn't it? I didn't really see Lana kissing him back, more playing dead so he wouldn't hurt her while holding her still (though my brain may have blacked out at that point). Then when her fiance appears she RUNS AWAY from him. Clark's assertion that she loves him because he loves her... is creepy. Both of their desire to OWN her is worse. That Clark convinces himself she felt something other than fear and disgust when FORCED into a bruising kiss... EW!
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Arielaricaiu on February 4th, 2007 10:52 pm (UTC)
Everwood
I remember a character had an abortion on Everwood a few years back--and it was portrayed as the right thing for her to do, even though the the doc tried to talk her out of it.

Guess those days are gone from teen tivi.
the childlike empress: asexualityrun_atreyu on March 17th, 2009 11:46 am (UTC)
Jesus Christ on a fucking cracker, I am really late to this post but A-goddamn-women to everything you've written here. I feel like throwing you a parade right now.
Jenny: Batdanceladydreamer on March 17th, 2009 06:02 pm (UTC)
Late to the post, but I just think of all the fodder I'd have from the network now? Oh, network tivi.